Need help with 1919 Italian handwriting Thread poster: Evgeny Sidorenko
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[L'anno 19]19, [addì] 6 febbraio [a ore] 14 [e minuti] 7 ... [Io] Commendatore Francesco Vitagliano Stendardo Sindaco ed [Uffiziale dello Stato Civile di] Cava dei Tirreni [avendo ricevuto dal direttore di questo(?) ospedale(?) militare(?) [un'avviso in data] di oggi ....
[a ore] cinque [e minuti] - [del giorno] cinque corrente mese è morto in detto ospedale Kusnjeroezuk/Kusnjeroczuk(?) Fedori/Fedan/Zedan(?) prigioniero di guerra caporale(?) nel (centoventiquattresimo?) fanteria(?), seconda compagnia(?), di anni(?) trentanove(?) a Kosma(?) domiciliato ivi, figlio ignorari(?) le generalità.
Il sindaco
For the name "Francesco Vitagliano Stendardo sindaco": http://www.panoramatirreno.it/sindaci%20XX-1.htm
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The last name seems to be Kusnjeroczuk - in the column on the right it is spelled with “i”, but the correct spelling is most likely with “j”.
“Cz” suggests it is a Polish last name and the first name seems to start with a “Z”, as the letter looks different from the “F” in “Francesco” and in “Fanteria”.
He was a “caporale”, military unit was “centoventiquattresima [124th] fanteria, seconda [2nd] compagnia”.
“Di anni trentanove�... See more The last name seems to be Kusnjeroczuk - in the column on the right it is spelled with “i”, but the correct spelling is most likely with “j”.
“Cz” suggests it is a Polish last name and the first name seems to start with a “Z”, as the letter looks different from the “F” in “Francesco” and in “Fanteria”.
He was a “caporale”, military unit was “centoventiquattresima [124th] fanteria, seconda [2nd] compagnia”.
“Di anni trentanove” means he was 39 years old, but the date of birth is not written.
“Nato a K…” (it looks like “Kosma” to me too) means he was born in K…, “e domiciliato ivi” means he was living in that same place.
“Figlio [I see “figlio” too, meaning “son”] ignorasi le generalità [“personal information unknown”]” together with “di ignorasi [literal meaning “of unknown”]” in the column on the right: I believe it means that they don’t know who his parents are as in they don’t know who to inform of the soldier’s passing. ▲ Collapse
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Thanks for your efforts. The name is most likely misspelt, or it is not in the available WWI records. Thanks anyway.
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“Kusnjerczyk” is a Polish last name and could well be the correct spelling.
And the first letter of the first name is not a “Z”, it’s a “J”.
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"Kosma" could be the German name of the Polish village of Koźmin, which at that time was part of Germany.
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TOPIC STARTER | Unfortunately the wrong spelling gives too many possibilities | Feb 18, 2024 |
Maria G. Grassi, MA AITI wrote:
“Kusnjerczyk” is a Polish last name and could well be the correct spelling.
And the first letter of the first name is not a “Z”, it’s a “J”.
What kind of first name could it be? Jedan/Jeodan? I'm not that familiar with Polish names. The initial reasoning behind this case was that the soldier of possibly Polish origin had been in the 124 regiment of the Russian army where he was taken POW and sent to Austria close to the Italian front and then somehow he ended in South Italy after the Austrians surrendered in 1918. While the 124 regiment of the German army was only at the Western Front. So if he had been conscripted into the German army from Kozmin, there was no way he could have been taken POW by Italians. A lot of uncertainty in this case, for sure, both with his name and place of birth.
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For what it’s worth, based on how the first name is split in the column on the right, I can tell you that the third letter has got to be a consonant.
Had it been a second vowel, it couldn’t have been split from the previous vowel “e” like that.
So the third letter is a “d” and then it looks like “an”…
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