Error "Invalid Pointer"
Autor wątku: Elena Nellson (X)
Elena Nellson (X)
Elena Nellson (X)
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angielski > rosyjski
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Jul 4, 2006

Dear colleagues,

I am trying to create a Termbase in MultiTerm 7 but I get the error message "Invalid pointer". What is going wrong?
Here is what I do:


  1. Align two documents and create a .txt file in WinAlign

  2. Convert .txt file to .xml in MultiTerm Convert

  3. Create a Termbase in MultiTerm

  4. Go to 'Import Entries' in MultiTerm, click Process and follow instructions. In the end the dialog bo... See more
Dear colleagues,

I am trying to create a Termbase in MultiTerm 7 but I get the error message "Invalid pointer". What is going wrong?
Here is what I do:


  1. Align two documents and create a .txt file in WinAlign

  2. Convert .txt file to .xml in MultiTerm Convert

  3. Create a Termbase in MultiTerm

  4. Go to 'Import Entries' in MultiTerm, click Process and follow instructions. In the end the dialog box shows "77 entries were succesfully imported". Close the dialog box.


  5. As a result, Multiterm has entries that look like {/f1 (not terms!) and when I click on any of them I get a message "Invalid Pointer". I also tried to delete the Termbase, create and importe a new one. I also tried to restart computer and work only with MultiTerm to exclude any interference. Nothing seems to work….


Here is my log file:

Import log information
General information:
Import definition name: Default import definition
Termbase name: Test 1
Import file: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Test Multiterm\Test WinAlign for MultiTConvert test.xml
Import log file: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Test Multiterm\Test WinAlign for MultiTConvert test.log
Exclusion file: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Test Multiterm\Test 1.xcl
Allow over-complete entries: false
Allow incomplete entries: true
Ignore sub-languages: true
Fast import: false
Import Options:
Import all entries: Add import entry as new
Original Entry Number Action Entry Number in Termbase


-1 Added 78
-1 Added 79
-1 Added 80
-1 Added 81
-1 Added 82
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-1 Added 154


Total entries processed: 77
Total entries added: 77
Total entries merged: 0
Total entries omitted: 0
Total entries written to the output file: 0
Import process started: 19/07/2006 11:12:40
Import process ended: 19/07/2006 11:12:44



[Edited at 2006-07-04 20:21]
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Vito Smolej
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Multiterm has entries that look like {/f1 Jul 5, 2006

Based on the story you seem to use a bilingual text as the feed for multiterm (?!) .

Try first with single words and make sure you do not have any special formatting characters involved.


 
Ralf Lemster
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Special characters in database object names Jul 5, 2006

I think Vito is on the right track:


Try first with single words and make sure you do not have any special formatting characters involved.

...particularly for database objects such as attribute or field names.

Best regards,
Ralf


 
Peter Linton (X)
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Go the Excel route Jul 5, 2006

I have been told by a Trados staffer that the safest way into MultiTerm is via Excel.

But first it's worth taking a step back -- I am a bit surprised that you are aligning documents in order to create a MultiTerm Termbase in the first place. MultiTerm is best at handling single word or short phrases, so unless your aligned documents contain words or phrases, they seem better suited to being a TM in Workbench. Also there is no point in having formatted text in MUltiTerm.
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I have been told by a Trados staffer that the safest way into MultiTerm is via Excel.

But first it's worth taking a step back -- I am a bit surprised that you are aligning documents in order to create a MultiTerm Termbase in the first place. MultiTerm is best at handling single word or short phrases, so unless your aligned documents contain words or phrases, they seem better suited to being a TM in Workbench. Also there is no point in having formatted text in MUltiTerm.

But I have done this sort of conversion myself, where the customers supplied documents that were in fact glossaries containing single words or short phrases, not sentences. So if you still want to go ahead, this is how I would do it:

Split your documents into short segments/sentences, each ending with a paragraph mark.

Remove all formatting (for example by cutting and pasting into Notepad)

Copy the source document into column A of an Excel spreadsheet, starting at row 2, with your source language in row 1 (eg Russian).

Copy the target document into column B of an Excel spreadsheet. also starting at row 2, with your target language in row 1 (eg English).

Save as .xls

Resume at your step 2, except you are using your Excel spreadsheet, not a .txt file.

This has worked for me.


[Edited at 2006-07-05 09:04]
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Vito Smolej
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"I am a bit surprised" Jul 5, 2006

... as I was too - and Ralph I guess as well -: why dont you import winaligned material into a Translation memory? You have the additional comfort of concordance search etc. Do you want MultiTerm help you translate "Mary had a little lamb"? I hope not: the role of MultiTerm is to take care of items like "lamb", but not of complete segments aka sentences.

Just the usual curious

Vito

PS: if you do have to take the path Peter suggested above, you can shorten
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... as I was too - and Ralph I guess as well -: why dont you import winaligned material into a Translation memory? You have the additional comfort of concordance search etc. Do you want MultiTerm help you translate "Mary had a little lamb"? I hope not: the role of MultiTerm is to take care of items like "lamb", but not of complete segments aka sentences.

Just the usual curious

Vito

PS: if you do have to take the path Peter suggested above, you can shorten it by using PlusToyz

www.geocities.com/avvysotsky/PlusToyz.zip

[Edited at 2006-07-05 10:17]
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Elena Nellson (X)
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It worked!!! Jul 5, 2006

Dear Vito, Ralf and Peter,

Thank you for your quick replies. They were very helpful. Indeed I was trying to align long pharase in stead of words or short segments. That was the problem. I am hapy to report that I followed the instructions that Peter gave and it work perfectly! Thank you again.


 


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