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An example of the kind of ridiculous job offers I am getting.
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Michael Newton
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Ridiculous job offers Feb 13, 2022

My comment "I pass on ridiculously small jobs at low rates". For some, "racist", for others, who know the Indian market, an unfortunate statement of an inconvenient fact, as the Indian agencies typically pay $0.01/$0.02 even for Japanese, Russian and Chinese. They might pay even less for Italian. Some people are always eager to be offended.

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Mr. Satan (X)
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@Michael Newton Feb 13, 2022

No, I think we all are aware of the market situation. That being said, your previous comment might bite you back when you run for presidency, y'know.

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Look closer to home Feb 13, 2022

Michael Newton wrote:

My comment "I pass on ridiculously small jobs at low rates". For some, "racist", for others, who know the Indian market, an unfortunate statement of an inconvenient fact, as the Indian agencies typically pay $0.01/$0.02 even for Japanese, Russian and Chinese. They might pay even less for Italian. Some people are always eager to be offended.


I often receive ridiculous job offers from Italy, a messy but rich Country nonetheless, and – surprise surprise! – from the almighty US of A, but I don't tell them "I don't take jobs this small but I know someone in Italy/US who might be willing to take the job. I can contact them if you like. I'm sure the job would buy a few pizzas/what-you-think-passes-for-burgers".

Some people are always eager to point out how some other people might be offended.



[Edited at 2022-02-13 08:26 GMT]


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Samuel Murray
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@Wilsonn Feb 13, 2022

Wilsonn Perez Reyes wrote:
Michael Newton wrote:
I'm sure the job would buy a few chapatis.

Such a racist remark!

I googled "chapatis" and discovered it is some kind of pancake. However, I could not figure out what is racist about it. Can you please explain to us?


 
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Easy Feb 13, 2022

Just another coarse ethnic joke about underpaid groups supposedly happy to work for rice, tortillas, cornbread and watermelon, bacon, etc.

Samuel Murray wrote:

Wilsonn Perez Reyes wrote:
Michael Newton wrote:
I'm sure the job would buy a few chapatis.

Such a racist remark!

I googled "chapatis" and discovered it is some kind of pancake. However, I could not figure out what is racist about it. Can you please explain to us?


 
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Not the delicious chapatis per se ... Feb 13, 2022

Samuel Murray wrote:

Wilsonn Perez Reyes wrote:
Michael Newton wrote:
I'm sure the job would buy a few chapatis.

Such a racist remark!

I googled "chapatis" and discovered it is some kind of pancake. However, I could not figure out what is racist about it. Can you please explain to us?


... but using India as an example of a country producing ridiculous job offers, whereas these come from all over the world, even from rich Western countries where the cost of living is sky-high and, therefore, should know much, much, much better.


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Baran Keki
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But Feb 13, 2022

P.L.F. Persio wrote:
whereas these come from all over the world, even from rich Western countries where the cost of living is sky-high

It is my experience that such 'ridiculous job offers' coming from 'London' are usually sent by people bearing Eastern European sounding surnames.
The same is the case with the 'US' agencies run by people of Asian and Middle Eastern origin.
I can understand people's desire to stay in touch with their food (chapatis, kebabs etc.) and culture, but imposing their country of origin's living standards on those living in Iceland or elsewhere is something I don't understand.


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Colourful and promising agency locations like Dubai, Singapore, New York, Lithuania (EU) or ... Feb 13, 2022

... even Hamburg very often can be referred to Cairo, Ceylon, Karachi, Minsk or Spain when you look up the IP of the sender (if it is not coming with a Gmail address). Nothing wrong with it, as long as they accept my price (they mostly don't) and payment upfront (almost never), when not located in the EU.

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Tom in London
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Mmm Feb 13, 2022

Samuel Murray wrote:

I googled "chapatis" and discovered it is some kind of pancake.


The benefits of former empires: the colonised people come to the mother country and improve the diet of the natives

Chapati-Breads_EXPS_FT20_136906_F_0721_1


[Edited at 2022-02-13 12:34 GMT]


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Empires Feb 13, 2022

Tom in London wrote:
The benefits of former empires: the colonised people come to the mother country and improve the diet of the natives

I thought you were Irish.


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Tom in London
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I am Feb 13, 2022

Baran Keki wrote:

Tom in London wrote:
The benefits of former empires: the colonised people come to the mother country and improve the diet of the natives

I thought you were Irish.


I am. I haven't said anything that would contradict that fact.


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Baran Keki
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Yes, you're right Feb 13, 2022

Tom in London wrote:
I am. I haven't said anything that would contradict that fact.

I just thought that the Irish wouldn't be too keen about words like "colonialism", "empire" etc.
But nevermind, I'm not an expert on the subject, and I know what you meant.


 
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I hear you, Baran Feb 13, 2022

Baran Keki wrote:

It is my experience that such 'ridiculous job offers' coming from 'London' are usually sent by people bearing Eastern European sounding surnames.
The same is the case with the 'US' agencies run by people of Asian and Middle Eastern origin.
I can understand people's desire to stay in touch with their food (chapatis, kebabs etc.) and culture, but imposing their country of origin's living standards on those living in Iceland or elsewhere is something I don't understand.


But I can assure you that the ridiculous offers from Italy are from all-Italian people. Admittedly very seldom, I even receive preposterous offers from the Netherlands, by people with oer-Hollandse names.


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Very high quality is required! Rate is 0.036-0.037 USD per word. Feb 13, 2022

Job offer recently posted on Proz for a De-En job in the legal field. With the stipulation you'll only get paid once the client 'accepts' the translation. So that leaves the door wide open....
Today's translation world. Just keeps getting better.


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this is not a race thing. Feb 13, 2022

I have no idea how this collapsed into a thread about racism. This was an Austrian University, which is about as white and privileged as it gets. Everyone there could afford my services, they just chose not to pay a fair wage because they don't respect translators.

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