How do you deal with the missing auto-assembling feature in your CAT tool? Thread poster: Hans Lenting
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Popular CAT tools like WFP or Trados don't have an auto-assembling feature. I have always asked myself: How do users deal with the missing auto-assembling feature in their CAT tool?
Auto-assembling is a feature that automatically inserts the first translation of a term into the target segment editor, e.g. when translating parts lists.
| | | | Samuel Murray 
Netherlands
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Hans Lenting wrote:
Popular CAT tools like WFP or Trados don't have an auto-assembling feature. I have always asked myself: How do users deal with the missing auto-assembling feature in their CAT tool?
We don't miss it. Auto-assembly at the term level (which is what you're talking about) is really only useful if the source and target languages have similar sentence constructions or word orders.
If a program offers good and/or easy auto-complete, you won't miss the auto-assembly. By auto-complete I mean that you can easily insert a term (or placeable) at the cursor position and/or easily select a term (or placeable) to be inserted at the cursor position. Some CAT tools do this on demand (i.e. you have to press a shortcut to activate it) while others offer suggestions while you type. It's quicker for me to insert or select & insert a term in the exact correct location while I translate than to rearrange existing words in the segment or to "plan" my translation around the words that were pre-inserted into the segment.
| | | | Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER
Samuel Murray wrote:
Auto-assembly at the term level (which is what you're talking about) is really only useful if the source and target languages have similar sentence constructions or word orders.
Some CAT tools extend auto-assembly to fragments or phrases and allow term patterns and segment context-depending patterns, while taking MT and your own high-prio glossaries into account, thus creating a kind of user-controlled NMT.
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| | | | Stepan Konev
Russian Federation
Local time: 20:48
English to Russian
| Could not find a use for it | May 10, 2023 |
memoQ can generate autoassembled suggestions (violet marker) but, to be honest, I have never seen a little chance to use it. MT, Muse and glossary do it much better and faster.
In Trados, I use all possible autosuggestion engines (autosuggest, autotext, autocorrect, termbase, fuzzy repair, fragment match, etc.) and I am not longing for this feature either.
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Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER | Type of text / segments | May 11, 2023 |
Samuel Murray wrote:
It's quicker for me to insert or select & insert a term in the exact correct location
I think that this depends on the type of text and segments: in very short segments (e.g. the ones containing only one word) in texts like parts lists, catalogues (not the marketing descriptions in them), automatic transfer of glossary items can be a real time saver:
Pressure:
Temperature:
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| | | | Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER
Stepan Konev wrote:
memoQ can generate autoassembled suggestions (violet marker) but, to be honest, I have never seen a little chance to use it. MT, Muse and glossary do it much better and faster.
How do "muses" work?
And: how exactly do you transfer the translation from a glossary to the target segment editor?
In Trados, I use all possible autosuggestion engines (autosuggest, autotext, autocorrect, termbase, fuzzy repair, fragment match, etc.) and I am not longing for this feature either.
Same question here: how do you transfer the translation from a glossary to the target segment editor?
| | | | Stepan Konev
Russian Federation
Local time: 20:48
English to Russian
Hans Lenting wrote:
How do "muses" work?
And: how exactly do you transfer the translation from a glossary to the target segment editor? Muses are pretty similar to the autosuggest in Trados: memoQ suggests fragment translations as you type. If there is a suggestion, a dropdown list appears to select the suggestion and insert it into the target segment by pressing Enter.
What regards terms, I insert them by pressing Ctrl+number in memoQ or by typing and selecting a fragment from the dropdown list in Trados
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There are 8 autosuggestion engines (sources) in Trados. All of them work on the predictive typing principle. memoQ does not have so many AS sources (I only know Muses).
[Edited at 2023-05-11 14:13 GMT]
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