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English term or phrase:
Barack / Barak
English answer:
different names of different origin
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Roddy Stegemann
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English term
Barack/Barak
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Government / Politics
English spelling and historical figures
President-Elect Barack H. Obama (USA) and Defense Minister Ehud Barak (Israel) share similar names. Are these different spellings of the same historical figure, or are they fundamentally different historical figures?
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Responses
5 +4 | ["Barack" has a Hebrew cognate//"Barak" is a Hebrew word] | Robert Forstag |
3 +4 | Barak - jewish name, Barack - muslim name | Sabine Akabayov, PhD |
3 +1 | unknown | Michael Tovbin |
References
Here's some more information ... | Ulrike Kraemer |
Responses
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["Barack" has a Hebrew cognate//"Barak" is a Hebrew word]
As Michael says, "Barak" is Hebrew for lightning. "Barack" is a name that means "Blessed" in Swahili and Arabic; its Hebrew cognate is "Baruch" [also meaning blessed].
These are the etymological origins of the two names. Reference to "historical figures" is really a separate question. After all, the names existed and were used well before historical (or mythic) figures acquired them.....
A Happy New Year to all!
See following reference: http://wiki.name.com/en/Barack
These are the etymological origins of the two names. Reference to "historical figures" is really a separate question. After all, the names existed and were used well before historical (or mythic) figures acquired them.....
A Happy New Year to all!
See following reference: http://wiki.name.com/en/Barack
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Nesrin
: Actually, in Arabic "baraka" is blessing, and "mubarak" blessed. In Swahili, however, the Arabic "baraka" was turned to "barak" (acc. to this site itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004187.html . So the name means "blessing", not "blessed".
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Thanks for clarifying.I had not known that "mubarak" was derived from b-r-k root meaning "bless".As an aside, do you know if linguists postulate some common "proto-Semitic" language from which Hebrew&Arabic are derived? Or is Hbr. held to derive from Arb?
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Alexandra Taggart
: Barack=barak=baruk: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hebrew baruk meaning&bt...
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Thank you, Alex.
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Shera Lyn Parpia
: with Nesrin on this.
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Thank you, Shera.
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muhammad turman
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Thank you, Muhammad.
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Comment: "Firstly, I would like to thank everyone for his/her contribution. I have chosen Robert Forstag's entry, because it offers the least controversy and the most agreement. In addition, his entry evoked very useful links that were an important part of my criteria for grading. This said, I must object to Robert's comment that the etymology of a name and those who bare the name historically are separate issues.
For example, one can well imagine that a Stanford graduate did not choose his name simply because it sounded more Hebrew. In short, the historical roots of Ehud Barak's chosen family name are unlikely a coincidence, as sibsab so clearly points out in her reference to the Prophetess Deborah and the Canaanites. For those of you who might be further interested please continue your investigation here: <http://bibleatlas.org/canaan.htm> -- perhaps, the tale of a contrived coincidence.
With regard to Barack H. Obama it appears that sibsab's reference to the Prophet Mohammed's horse is, indeed, misplaced. With the understanding that Barack Obama's father is Kenyan and bears the same name as his son, that the two official language of Kenya are English and Kiswahili, and that the Swahili language family contains many Arabic "loan" words, then it is likely that we should take President-Elect Obama's interpretation of his own name as both genuine and correct.
As a special treat for Robert, I thought you all might like to share in the following link: <http://www.bartleby.com/61/JPG/tree.jpg> It shows that both Hebrew and Arabic are derivates of the same proto-language, but are indeed quite distant from another within the family of languages derived from the proto-language.
Special thanks to Mihaela Ghiuzeli for starting the ball rolling and to Nesrin and muhammad turman for their very useful insight with regard to the Arabic language. In the end it appears that the Barack of President-Elect Obama, and the Barack of President Mubarak of Egypt are indeed very different. Then again, Arabic and Kiswahili are different languages, spoken in different cultures, in different parts of the world.
It was also fun to learn that Barack is the family name of an Afghan soccer player. Thanks, LittleBalu!
For the moment, I will shy away from addressing what the Russian's think of the new US President to be. Surely, foxes, no matter their color, are known for their cleverness. I will wait until after the current crisis in Palestine (Canaan) is over before grading my question on the name Hussein."
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Ehud Barak was born Brog and later changed his name to make sound more Hebrew. "Barak" is Hebrew for lighting. As for Barack Obama, I have not been able to find the origins of his name but I doubt they are Hebew. So I think these are two different names not the same name spelled differently.
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Denise Idel
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Alexandra Taggart
: I can agree with you on one point-that everything is translucent about Jews, not about "jewishness" of Obama's name.
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Barak - jewish name, Barack - muslim name
Barak is a figure from the Torah. He was called by the prophetess Deborah to fight Sisera and the Canaanites.
Barak also means lighting as Michael ointed out.
Barak is a common first and last name in Israel.
Barack on the other hand is the name of the horse of the prophet Mohammad. The spelling of this name is sometimes Barak or Baraq.
Barak also means lighting as Michael ointed out.
Barak is a common first and last name in Israel.
Barack on the other hand is the name of the horse of the prophet Mohammad. The spelling of this name is sometimes Barak or Baraq.
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Denise Idel
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smarinella
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Chanda Danley
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kironne
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muhammad turman
: I agree with your anaylisis of the Hebrew name. However, the Arabic name of Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) steed (winged horse) is spelled "Al-Burāq" and is always preceded by the definite article (AL) - the equivelent of the English (THE)
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Reference comments
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Reference:
Here's some more information ...
substantiating sibsab's comments: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_(given_name)
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Note added at 8 hrs (2009-01-01 10:55:27 GMT)
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This one's in German:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barak_(Richter)
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Note added at 8 hrs (2009-01-01 10:55:27 GMT)
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This one's in German:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barak_(Richter)
Discussion
1) <http://bibleatlas.org/canaan.htm>
2) <http://www.bartleby.com/61/JPG/tree.jpg>
Unfortunately I've lost the track.